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Sad day for the Trekkies...

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lakilika
Jul. 20th, 2005 06:45 pm (UTC)
;_;

I'm still not over Dr. McCoy.
hiyami
Jul. 20th, 2005 06:53 pm (UTC)
Oh, I didn't remember he had died :(
I wonder if it was thoroughly annonced here though. Star Trek is not as cult here as in US - nothing sci-fi was EVER a big hit in France...
lakilika
Jul. 20th, 2005 06:59 pm (UTC)
It was several years ago; I think he was the first of the cast to pass away.

No sci-fi cults in France? What do you people DO?? :O
hiyami
Jul. 20th, 2005 07:12 pm (UTC)
The IMDB said 1999. I don't think I was "back" into Star Trek yet, as I was only able to see the "new" series in the last 4 years with the cable. But I remember TOS from my childhood.

No sci-fi cults in France? What do you people DO?? :O

Well, let me see... There was that odd godless religion on Sunday, the same guy did the whole afternoon of TV on Channel 2 for like, 40 years... There were several different shows, but ALL hosted by him... Sorry, it's all true but probably wouldn't make you laugh as you don't know the guy. He just had like half of the audience set to watch him on Sunday afternoons ('kay there was not much competition).

Seriously, unlike US that had Star Trek and UK that had Dr Who and Red Dwarf, there was never any sci-fi show that was really, really successful and became a popular hit over here. I think French people are too rational, in the wrong meaning of the word :P

I don't know how many times, when telling I was reading sci-fi, I got condescending or surprised looks and comments of "Uh, but it's not REAL, what's the point?"
*roll eyes*

Yeah, because novels are all about real events, everyone knows that... :P

Basically, over here most of the population discovered that science-fiction could touch "deep" themes with "Matrix" (and then forgot it as Matrix II and III confirmed that sci-fi could be just an empty bubble of special effects and big words...), and fantasy with Harry Potter and the LOTR movies.

Before that, it was all its own ghetto, looked down at by everyone "serious".
kahvi_elf
Jul. 22nd, 2005 10:51 am (UTC)
It was a lot like that in Germany until Star Trek became immensly popular
in the late 1990s (one of the commercial tv-channels started the hype).
Before that we were just rare and strange geeks...although there were quite a lot.
Everyone confused Star Wars and Star Trek and most of the old SF-Fanbase were
classic-SF fans. fans of Assimov etc and many many Perry Rhodan fans.
We also have a small bizarre fandom for our own 1960s Sci-Fi miniseries :-)

I often got those comments about "SF not being real stories", still get them
sometimes. The books of Astrid Lindgren and Michael Ende never provoced that comments. Don't know why. They are fantasy novels.
But after the big SF/Fantasy movies of the last years it changed a bit.

Since there are lots of comic-based films it also gets better with the reactions
towards me reading comics. To most people here comics are either funny stuff like Asterix and Mickey Mouse or the naive good v evil Superman comics (like it was
5o years ago).
hiyami
Jul. 22nd, 2005 05:36 pm (UTC)
Everyone confused Star Wars and Star Trek and most of the old SF-Fanbase were classic-SF fans. fans of Assimov etc and many many Perry Rhodan fans.

Same here :)
Except I don't think there are many Perry Rhodan fans. But Asimov, Clark, Frank Herbert, etc... And in fantasy, Moorcock, Zelazny...

The books of Astrid Lindgren and Michael Ende never provoced that comments. Don't know why. They are fantasy novels.

I stopped trying to argue about sci-fi or fantasy when I was told by a guy that the "Terminator" movie was not science-fiction.
It made me realize that for him - and many other people who despise sci-fi and all genre things -, basically if they like it, it can't be sci-fi, because sci-fi is not good enough for them.
So if it's good, it can't be genre. o_O
O-kayyyy...

To most people here comics are either funny stuff like Asterix and Mickey Mouse or the naive good v evil Superman comics (like it was 5o years ago).

We have a different word here for Asterix stuff or Mickey stuff, so "comics" was only applied to US super-hero comics for a long time... Until they started publishing some "different" US comics.
But I still get those "Aren't you too old to read that?" looks when I speak of it.
kahvi_elf
Jul. 22nd, 2005 10:53 am (UTC)
love your icon ^_^
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